Late last week, I downloaded a copy of MindManager for SharePoint to install on my laptop for my new job. That resulted in a follow-up phone call by Mindjet SME sales representative Mike Blandford, who did a great job of shedding more light on this new product and what major problem it solves in corporate environments. Here’s a summary of what we discussed:
As I alluded to in my last post about MindManager for SharePoint, I’m not a fan of Microsoft’s network collaboration tool. At my old job, SharePoint was used by the department in which I worked (marketing) to keep track of dozens of complex projects, each of which had multiple resources, milestones and people associated with them. The folder hierarchy was so deep that it was often hard to find the folder I needed.
What I didn’t know was whether my experience with SharePoint was typical, or if I’m just a weirdo SharePoint hater.
Turns out that I have plenty of company, according to Blandford. He said that many of the Mindjet customers he has talked to share a similar experience: These firms typically implement SharePoint because they want their employees to collaborate better, and to provide a common place where all team members can post project updates. Then they become dismayed when no one uses it. It’s just too hard to find specific folders and resources. To make matters worse, SharePoint’s search capability is only rudimentary. he said Microsoft’s SharePoint discussion lists are filled with a lot of talk about how to improve SharePoint search, but not much has been done so far to address this shortcoming by the gigantic Redmond-based software developer.
In addition, in most companies, the corporate IT department usually gets to decide what the folder hierarchy is when they install the SharePoint Server. This arrangement may be somewhat arbitrary and idiosyncratic, making resources even harder to find. Blandford shared the story of one person he talked to who spent an average of 30 minutes a day – or the equivalent of 150 hours a year! (assuming 30 min./day x 300 work days/year) – searching for specific projects and pages on her company’s SharePoint databases.
How does MindManager for SharePoint solve this problem? By providing a powerful SharePoint search tool that enables you to simultaneously search several SharePoint databases and incorporate multiple filtering criteria into your query. This enables you to find what you’re looking for, faster. In other words, Mindjet has built the search tool that should have been native to SharePoint.
I mentioned to Blandford that perhaps this “corporate” version of MindManager may make it more palatable to IT departments, which control what software can be installed on the desktops of knowledge workers around the world. If they don’t “get” the value of mind mapping, then typically they don’t invest in mind mapping software. He agreed, and said that MindManager for SharePoint should actually make IT’s job easier. If you can empower employees to find the SharePoint resources they need on their own, then IT should receive fewer calls from frustrated employees, complaining, “I can’t find what I’m looking for on SharePoint!”
Alex · 787 weeks ago
I don't work in a large corporate and hence don't use Sharepoint, but I would like to make a couple of points:
1. I like the idea of MM's search facility in Sharepoint being the "Trojan horse" to get MM into large coporate environments, but even there I think the cost is still going to be a significant factor. Up to US$499 per user is a pretty expensive search engine. In fact I think Mindjet need to have a good think about their overall pricing strategy, especially as competing mind mapping programs, both PC and web based, are developing features sets approaching (and in some cases, exceeding) those of MM and a very competitively priced.
2. Mindjet also need to improve the connectivity of MM to other programs and applications, including Office products. Whilst the product already has good foundations in these areas, there are little things that would be a great help - for example, being able to easily convert an Excel spreadsheet to become a map, and better handling of links to Outlook items (I've already raised this issue in a number of MM forums).
Ruven Gotz · 784 weeks ago
Let me set up my biases, so you know where I am coming from: I am a super enthusiastic user of MindManager. I give presentations on it at SharePoint conferences across North America. I have yet to really try the new SharePoint add-on, but it looks like a useful tool and I am looking forward to giving it a thorough test.
As a SharePoint consultant and solution architect, I find it sad and upsetting to read about how crappy SharePoint is as a business solution when it’s clear how badly it was implemented.
When I read about “folder hierarchies” and poor “search capability”, I know that I am reading about a SharePoint implementation that was done without thinking about how to structure the information in a way that makes it easy to find and work with. Hint: A wholesale import of a shared network drive into SharePoint leads to a WORSE user experience. The whole point of SharePoint is to move away from deep folder hierarchies. Also, SharePoint search can be very powerful if the information is structured properly: Even a google appliance won’t give you google-like search results in a corporate setting.
The work that I do takes advantage of MindManager as a tool to work visually and interactively with stakeholders to define an information architecture that will help users take advantage of navigation AND search to efficiently find the documents that they need. I have seen SharePoint work really well when this careful planning work is done ahead of time, but on its own, it’s no collaboration silver bullet.
-Ruven
Franck R · 783 weeks ago
Obviously since you are a MOSS Architect, you can only be biased in responding to a truthful post.
When a product like SharePoint, which is a collection of mediocre sub products (it has blogging but isn't a blog etc...), requires a search add-on, you can only be worried.
If SP was supposed to be so easy, complete and non-hierarchical, so why the ecosystem of add-on products that extend it?
To blame the implementation because of the product inconsistencies is specious at best.
Microsoft is struggling with search. If you use Vista of Windows 7, try to search for: all text documents that contain the word “worse”...Then you'll find that the lack of search capability is found in both SP and on the desktop. And this is a Microsoft lack of commitment to search. Google (incidentally, any other search engine) for the enterprise is far superior to any Microsoft search technology.
I'm sure SP is NOT going to be around for long as people realize that it does everything but nothing really well. Lastly, a $500 add-on for search to a $60K product which can’t search document larger than 500KB, just doesn’t make any sense.
Ref: http://furuknap.blogspot.com/2009/10/sharepoint-s...
-Franck R
Ruven Gotz · 783 weeks ago
Of course you are entitled to your opinion (though some of your evidence is quite weak). And I agree that SharePoint is not a perfect system by any means. You linked to an excellent blog where Bjørn lists many issues that he has with SharePoint, but if you would read the last post in his series, you'll find that even as a harch critic of its failings, he still "loves" SharePoint:
http://furuknap.blogspot.com/2009/10/sharepoint-s...
I think that your reasoning is faulty around the size of an add-on market being an indicator of the weakness of a product. It's more likely a recognition that a product that is hugely successful will not meet every need 'out of the box' and there is money to be made by selling accessories.
No product is a perfect fit for every problem. I am happy (and more importantly, my customers are happy) with the problems that I can solve with SharePoint. I don't think your prediction that you are "sure SP is NOT going to be around for long" will prove to be correct.
Ruven
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You can only get out of SharePoint what you put into it in terms of planning and governance. My clients can't get SharePoint implemented fast enough. They want the features now, but alas, we have to go through the planning process whether they want to wait or not. However, they have been uniformly happy with the end results.
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